Glass Chatroom Board

@scott: Yes, I'm interested in both. They kind of go hand in hand to a degree. And yes, I'm familiar with the Delaware, Lakawana & Western Railroad. Their primary cargo was coal, supplying many other railroads. The transition to the diesel era was their primary undoing & they merged with The Erie in 1960, to form the Erie & Lakawana, one of the most popular lines with model railroaders. Eventually they were absorbed by Conrail in the mid 1970's.

There's railroad history all over this country. The railroads were, in large part, responsible for the expansion & building of it.

@scott: Yes, Greg has bought Carnival from me several times in the past. Marigold Poinsettia & Lattice bowls are actually quite tough to find. Far more Blue & Amethyst ones turn up than do Marigold.

@scott : You've done well. We rarely see much of anything in old Carnival up here anymore, save for Marigold Riple Vases & Stippled Rays bowls etc. When you do see something, even if it's just a common Blue Dragon & Lotus bowl or Amethyst Three Fruits bowl etc, it's priced at from $175.- $250. (or more!). It's ridiculous. Very, very little, GOOD, old glass up here in Maine anymore. It's picked clean. Most of the shops, malls & local auctions are full of 20-30 year old junk, glass-wise.

@favoritegram LAINEY ... The open-handled tray looks like it could be a pattern called VERSAILLES by Dithridge & Co. There is an reprint of an April 5, 1900, page of the Crockery and Glass Journal. It's just a fuzzy black and white picture, but below the dish is the caption #194 Versailles Olive.

@scott SCOTT ... I have the Hobbs book, but don't see any measurements mentioned on the jug sizes.

@scott Scott... I know you collect antique cruet sets. Please look at Suzy's post on Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012, 2:45pm, she's needs help with an ID.
Thanks!

@scott SCOTT ... I am very sorry to say...I collect nothing. Well, I do have a fairly complete set of Macbeth-Evans Sweetheart dinnerware in Monax which I consider my "good china." I love to treasure hunt. I only sell so that I can go back out and treasure hunt to find more stuff. I love EAPG and at the convention I found that I had so much in common with the Shaker people and the Toothpick people...so I joined both clubs. Actually the Vaseline Glass people too, so I joined it!

@scott SCOTT ... yes, I joined last year after meeting with many from the group at the Mega Glass Convention in Overland Park, Kansas.

@baabaamason BOB in KY ... thanks for posting the ID on the cake stand. I have hardly had a chance to sit down today. Actually, only just got back Church this evening and planned to sit down with books and look for it. It was a pattern I was not familiar with.

HI to AMBER & SHELLY!

@scott SCOTT ... beautiful photos of your shakers. I've just started getting interested in shakers this year and just got the Lechner books in. I bought this little batch of salt shakers this past weekend and am trying to figure out their IDs...one baby step at a time. 🙂 One of them called HERON & LIGHTHOUSE I got in both milk glass and in clear.
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/4/4/3/3/6/9/webimg/604314009_o.jpg

@10bbg10 HELEN .... sorry, I don't have any idea who made your vase.

@scott SCOTT ... are you on Facebook. I'd love to see what the people on the Antique Glass Salt and Sugar Shakers site have to say about your wonderful find!

@fran2 FRAN2 ... no, eBay does not subtract. What happens is the month keeps moving and so depending on how much you've sold from month to month, the number can often change.

@scott Ditto on Gail's question. In all of my years of auctions, church sales and GS I recall seeing very few shaker sets.

Good afternoon, glassies. Been running all over town today. Also on the internet tracking down a Cocker Spaniel Rescue site. Found one that says it not too far, but turns out that's just the headquarters and the person is actually a far distance. However she's traveling up this direction at the beginning of next week and is very excited to pick up the dog on Tuesday. She says she has had 2 requests for a female Cocker Spaniel. They have a quite stringent set of rules before they will let someone adopt...they even make a home visit! They do all the shots, grooming, etc.

@scott SCOTT ... I love those shakers. Can you tell us more about them? Do you know who made them, when, pattern name? Is that a deep deep deep brown glass? Are the S and P pressed in the glass or is it all painted on a flat surface?

@scott; You could belong to a 100 clubs, but I don't know how you could be active in all of them. The area that you were in is loaded with museums within a 50 mile radius. You could spend two weeks visiting all of them.

@scott:Probably not., but maybe.. The only club that I know for certain is the NAGC, since we both served on the Board together.. I 'll have to ask him the next time I see him. He does all the shows and always is at Brimfield.

@scott : Have you crossed paths with my friend Bill Thomas? He is a shaker collector and lives near the area in northeast MD.
JimD

Marty @sellingthings Your bowl may only have "KIG" embossed on the base. That can be hard to find. Try looking right on the rim of the base, you may even get better results by feeling. And as I scroll aha I see you found it LOL
Have a look though this site You'll find your item I am sure
http://www.kedaung.com/glassware.asp
Carl @carma I am one that rarely buys these days on eBay and I don't sell that much there either But Like I said I like the idea as a seller that eBay gets us our money to us immediately, sounds like a dream come true , sell it and the money is in the PP account immediately, no worries. But I do not like the idea of them taking over. I can see problems with this, like the ones that have been mentioned. Ebay takes over me as a seller what forms of payment I am allowed to accept and now they want to take control of my paying ability when I make a purchase.I am an adult and I can function at buying and selling very well. I am sure there are better ways to combat the NPB's Like, as been mentioned, bring back the FB system where a seller can leave a neg for NPB. Then as a seller we can check their FB and cancel their bids if we feel them to be non trustworthy In the end it wil all be automatic and there will be no communications between the buyer and the seller at all. Which I do think is necessary & nice when dealing with collectables. But ebay is gradually going down another path. It will all be new, cheap imports being sold by the truck load from a warehouse .So for those sellers the new automatic way would be a big time saver for them. And that's who Ebay are aiming at, not us small time folk selling one off pieces of "junk"
Scotts @scott idea sounds OK too. Bring in a credit rating system.

Ok the sun is starting to get some warmth in it,so outdoors I go. I have 2 vehicles to wash for starters.
Julie

@scott : Yes, I would say that the blue opaque pieces in Trailing Vine are pretty rare. I've only seen a few over the years & I seem to recall that all of them were Spooners too.

@scott - we really need to invent a sarcasm smiley 😉

@sellingthings - that Anchor Hocking mark dates to 1976 or later. Here's an image with all their marks and corresponding dates

@scott - Truly rare pieces will likely never sell "for a song". There will still be a few avid collectors that need those items and are willing to pay for them. It's the less than scarce pieces that suffer the largest drop in value. Prior to the Worldwide Web you might run across some of these truly rare pieces at garage sales, estate sales, local auctions, etc. where people had them stored away with no real idea what they had. Today, it's far too easy to look stuff up before selling or giving it away so those pieces very rarely get sold unidentified.

@scott - I'm not sure I understand the difference between what you're calling plain cranberry and shiny finish.

@scott Some companies produced a wide aray of colors in small shapes http://www.antiquesaltshakers2.com/challinortaylorshakers.html

@scott : I'm afraid I can't be of much help on that Shaker. I've not seen that one before. Trying to pin down makers on many of those Flute/Colonial type patterns can be frustrating, if not downright impossible. Just about every glass maker on the planet back in the early 1900's made one or several Flute/Colonial pattern lines.

Mahnin'All: Looks like ebay has squared away some of the problems. I signed in earlier this AM & just went back there. Clicked on My Ebay & got there without having to sign in again. The category browse pages are back to the regular format again too.

@scott : I have a copy of the 1906 Northwood Factory Catalog and there is a full page devoted to Regent. No mention of availability in Crystal, just the three aforementioned colors. Strange. I do think some of these un-documented colors & items were either special order lots, or perhaps just made on a whim. They ran off a quota of certain items they had orders for, had a little molten glass still in the tank that they needed to use up and grabbed whatever mould happened to be sitting in reach (in this case a Regent Master Berry mould) and made 3 or 4 or 5 of them with the leftover glass. Probably then put them in the factory store to sell (most glassworks had one) and thus there is no record of them ever having been made. Who knows for sure?

@scott : I have a large, un-decorated (no fired on gold) Crystal Master Berry Bowl in Northwood's Regent (aka Leaf Medallion). It's the only crystal piece of that pattern I've ever seen & I can find no reference to any crystal production on Regent, just Amethyst, Cobalt & Emerald Green with fired on gold decoration. This crystal piece shows no traces of gold decoration whatsoever. I've had it many years & can find nothing on Regent ever having been made in crystal.

@scott : I've seen a Creamer in crystal, a few years back in an antique mall in NH. It was priced rather cheap, but I passed on it as it had an annealing fracture where the top of the handle was applied. It's the only crystal piece I recall ever seeing.

went to the local club for a couple of beers with sister and a flutter on the pokies. I lost she won
@fran WTG on winning
@scott I am pleased your shaker turned out to be what you wanted
Julie

@scott SCOTT ... so glad your concerns were put to rest and that you have an authentic shaker.

@nona NANCYJEAN ... I've not seen anything like that vase before and was totally unfamiliar with the term fireglow. It was fun doing a search and trying to learn more about it.

@kasi KASI ... I surely remember how busy you are doing rodeo time. I'm sure you're having a great time.

@scott SCOTT ... beautiful shaker and so glad NANCYJEAN could ID it for you.

@reen REEN ... hope the weather improves for you, stay warm and safe in the meantime.

@wattleihavenext JULIE ... It's so super you can see your DGD whenever you want. I miss my grandkids so much and only have their pictures to turn to. 🙁

@10bbg10 HELEN ... sorry, but I don't have any idea who made your little cups.

It's early but I think I'm going to hit that new and very comfortable bed... 😀 Good night to all.

@scott -your shaker is Mt Washington "Colonial Ware" That chrysanthemum pattern is shown in my Betty Sisk book in other pieces. The cream and sugar with silver handle and spout book at $1500. Love that Mt Washington! Nancyjean

Good Morning everyone. Sunny and very humid here today. Been out and about very early this morning with my sister. Feel slike it should be afternoon but it is still morning LOL
@sewerrats glad you survived the holidays 🙂
Shelly @shellyrae37 Friend with the Syndrome is having intense treatment and she is just starting to learn walk again with the help of a frame.She can't walk far only a few steps, but it is a start.
Bear @jpthings I had a few beers 😉 Not Pints though. I drink Middies.
Helen @10bbg10 cancer is so cruel 🙁 Terry will be only 51 years old 25th January, Not sure he will make his birthday. 🙁
Gail @songbreeze yes we want pics of your booth when it is all done.
@scott I think my little piggy bank originally came with sherbert in it.
Julie
Julie

Hi, glassies. I've been the past 4 hours just unpacking, retagging stuff, and re-packing. Just had to take a break. Have to go to WalMart and get some more boxes and then back to work. I bought more shelves yesterday, so now I have to get all the items ready to put on them. Hope to make it back up to Joplin before the middle of the week.

@scott SCOTT ... sorry I can't help. I've not seen the little jar before whether iridized or not.

Waving HI to everybody here!

Been a morning and a half for me. Finished doing both my neighbours and my yard. Had all thw whipper snipping to do around the path edges, fences and garden beds etc.
Had a phone call from a dear friend, very distressed. Her partner whom I spoke about before, diganosed with terminal cancer before Christmas, is not doing so well. The cancer has spread to his brain..so very very sad.
Then after that call I received another call from another dear friend wityh much better news. His wife contracted Guillain-Barré Syndrome just a few days before Christmas and has been in a very bad way. Anyway she is on the road to recovery, they are transferring her back to our local Hospital. Still no Visitors allowed as she is still very weak but there is a light at the end of that tunnel.

katie @fyrqueen what about The Upchuck Alarm Clock. It would also make a great gift for that someone that has it all LOL
@scott I have a little glass piggy bank with very much the same iridization. Base is marked with the Anchoring Hocking trademark, if memory serves me correct. Cute little thing

Now I am going to say Hooroo to you all. I am off to the local Club for a few beers with my sister. I need a little wind-down &relaxation
Julie

@allirish123 TRACY ... by all means, take photos of the butter lids and the butter bases and we will tell you which ones go together. Also post the Tiffin glass. The etch may be classic, but it sounds like you don't know the blank that it has been etched on. Seeing a picture may help locate the blank.

@scott SCOTT ... such a drop dead gorgeous set!

@scott Congratulations on your new addition to your collection.
Gail @songbreeze and there were a few dancing in the rain over the weekend 🙂
@amber1986 NO I don't ride a bike. My late husband was the rider I was just always the pillion. But I still go away with my biker friends from time to time. I drive, they ride
Julie

@scott SCOTT ... congratulations on winning such a beautiful piece. That Holly Amber pattern and color is so lovely.

@wattleihavenext JULIE ... so glad you had a grand time. Speaking of all that mud made me think of my favorite saying, but in a entirely humorous light for a change... Live isn't about waiting for the storm to pass ...it's about learning to dance in the rain." 😀

@enchantmentglass KELLI ... so glad you are getting bids as they seem to be few and far between lately.

@fyrqueen KATIE ... sounds like you are busy with remodeling and reorganizing too.

@fran dbfrogs FRAN ... so glad you had an enjoyable weekend too with Harvest Festival.

Good Morning everyone. Having a few connection problems atm so browing the internet is a real PITA.
@scott I totally understand what you are saying
@reen yep us Aussies will sort out Ebay Our banks will jump all over them
just like we did when they tried to force Paypal only onto us.
Julie

@scott : The Amethyst Northwood Peacocks bowl up on the page banner at the far right is mine. Took it out on the deck on a bright but totally overcast day. Put a heet of white poster board down, put the bowl on it, then just sttod over it & shot the picture straight down. Iridescence wise, I'd say that photo is 99% accurate. That's just what the bowl looks like.

@scott : I agree on photographing Carnival. It's just about impossible to capture iridescence with 100% accuracy. Closest you can come is outdoors on a totally overcast day, which gives nice, "flat" lighting. Light background for dark colored pieces & a dark blue or black background for White, Ice Green etc. It's not 100% accurate, but about as close as you can get.

Up here in Maine, photographing Carnival for ebay listings becomes a problem in winter. It can be -20 or -30 below zero out there & you just cannot take the glass outside in those kind of temps.

@scott: Yes, John Britt had a thing for "little pieces". If there was anything tiny & rare, John either had it or wouldn't rest until he did.

@scott: John & Lucille Britt?

@scott: Oops! Forgot to mention that when he found it at the flea market it was priced at $15. As he was looking at it, the dealer told him he cold have it for $12.!!

@scott: Wish I did. LOL! But I know they exist and a friend of mine, the late Bob Hurst of Rhode Island, had one. He found it about 10 years ago at a flea market in Illinois. It had no metal top. I had some tops at the time, so when he came up to visit that fall, he brought it with him, we fit one perfectly & I gave it to him. He was so thrilled to have found an Amethyst one. Funny thing is, his glass was auctioned off about a year ago at two different auctions & the shaker was no where to be found in either of them. I have no idea what became of it. Perhaps he sold it privately at some point. He passed away this past March.

@scott SCOTT ... I subscribe to All About Glass, but I have no idea when it is regularly scheduled to arrive. I've never paid any attention to any of my magazine subscriptions other than to make sure I get each month's edition at some time and that I know when my renewal date is.

@Scott I was looking around and found this shaker club site that I thought might interest you.
http://www.antiquesaltshakers2.com/

@scott yes Now I am looking at them both together they are not the same
Helen @10bbg10 Try Googling artist joe stewart Here is my result
http://www.google.com.au/search?rlz=1C1CHKB_en-GBAU439AU439&gcx=w&ix=e1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=artist+joe+stewart

MM @newplace your last links are not working for me.
@scott maybe they are cousins then LOL
Julie

Good Morning everyone. It is drizzling rain here this morning.
@scott while looking around for Alicia's DD"s vase I came across this..Is this like the shaker you have?
http://www.great-glass.co.uk/library/thumbnails/5830.jpg
http://www.great-glass.co.uk/library/lib1ba.htm
@fran I hope you don't stay sick for too long.
MM @newplace thanks for sharing that pic of the lamps. DDG
NancyP @jerseystar27 I couldn't ever imagine being that long without power. Glad you are back
@carma WTG for Marley and her team

Helen I had a little giggle about the young teen and the shoes.
Julie

@scott
I am also a Collector, I occasionally sell on eBay, but not much anymore.
I have been part of this group for 7 years, and for me , it's like being enrolled in the Best College of Glass anywhere!
Fran

@scott: While I am an active antique dealer, I am also very much a collector & have been since I was about 4 years old, circa 1952. When I was little, I collected porcelain & china dog figurines. My dad, in his travels, would always stop somewhere & buy me a dog figurine to bring home to me. Little did we know at the time, but he bought some pretty darn good ones. I still have most of them. Quite a few are Occupied Japan (they were making them at the time) & a few are Dresden. When I was in the 8-12 year old range, it was Baseball Cards & Comic Books. Still have some of those too. Im late teens/early 20's it was antique & collectible firearms. One of my guns, an 1858 Nickle Plated Burnside Cavalry Carbine (one of only 500 made for parade use) now hangs in the Gettysburg Museum.
Then it was Militaria......uniforms, medals, badges, swords & gear from all wars & periods. Then, in the early/mid 70's, I got into glass. I built up & sold 3 Carnival Glass collections between 1973-1999. The first was all Tumblers, the second mostly Northwood and the third all Imperial. Sold off all of those. Then I built up a collection of over 180 pieces of Imperial Slag Glass. Sold that off in 2003. Since then I've been collecting Dugan Art Glass and Coins. And of course, I'm a big film buff & have collected nearly 500 titles in my movie library. So, trust me, there ARE collectors here. LOL!

@scott SCOTT ... just love your new shakers and looking forward to seeing the others when they arrive. Could you please post the pattern name, maker, and date for those of us trying to learn. Would surely be appreciated. Thanks!

There were 4 of us ladies that got together at a friends house for supper. Such a very pleasant evening we had. Lovely meal and fun conversation.

@fran dbfrogs FRAN ... owiee! Sorry to hear Debbie is having oral surgery. Hope you have a grand time in Sacramento. You MUST get pictures of you in your Witchy constume and your DH the tooth fairy. 😀

@scott SCOTT ... what a beautiful shaker. Love the color fade.

@donscns DON ... I have the Richard Davis book and I really like it. All the pictures are so nice and big so it's easy on the eyes to go through.

@scott congratulations on your new aquisitions.
@glassusa Bob & @shellyrae37 WTG!!
LOL @songbreeze Gail weeeellllll...I was just a tiny bit delicate in the morning but after a cuppa and a BBQ breakie I came good. One of the locals that lives there had us all back at his place for breakfast and to show us his collections. OMG!!! his whole yard and sheds were full, from just absolute junk to some of the most magnificent vintage motor bikes. Stuff piled up everywhere and then amoung all that were chook pens, bird averies . I should have taken photos but I just didn't know where to start LOL I tried not to think was would be crawling amoung it all LOL...rats, mice snakes, God knows what else LOL
Julie

@scott SCOTT ... really looking forward to seeing a pic of your new acquisitions.

@glassusa BOB ... congratulations! I bought some Precious Moment figures years ago...Sammy's Circus...and I'm still stuck with them. 🙁 lol.

@shellyrae37 ... and congratulations to you, too, for a good week of sales. It's always so encouraging.

@wattleihavenext JULIE ... Glad you had a fun trip and also that you didn't wake up too delicate from all the festivities. 😀

Good night to all.

@scott or anyone else who can help. I received my shaker set today, GUTTATE. I have now learned that it is probably named for Guttate psoriasis, a type of psoriasis that looks like small, salmon-pink drops on the skin. There are three shakers, one for salt one for pepper and the other has me confused. It is a single small hole in the top of the cap, about 1/8 inch diameter. What was this for? Thanks.

***Don

@scott SCOTT … In Heacock 4: Custard Glass, a Chrysanthemum Sprig syrup is shown on page 26. I have the syrup, but no stopper … and also pretty worn enamel…. double sad. Also show it in a beautiful blue custard…

Oh honest to Pete... I keep posting, deleting, posting...... I'm talking about a CRUET and you are talking about a SYRUP... double-duh...sorry............

@Scott

Hi Scott, here is the Bohemian Czech sugar shaker. Thanks for taking a look and any information you can share. Leah

http://i53.tinypic.com/jzyvqb.jpg

@Scott Thanks! Want to ask you, if you collect sugar shakers also? I have one that is Bohemian Czech and was wondering if you might know of the maker. Having tech. issue with uploading pics at the moment and when I can get it straight, I will follow up. Okay!?

@Gail Hope you feel better soon.

Leah 🙂

@scott : Not to certain how the situation will be ., or the mood for that matter, since Steuben is closing this November. I guess we don't get it. Why are we still buying this glass? No one else apparently is. If it does not have an import sticker, no one will buy it.
JimD

@donscns DON , @scott SCOTT, @itsagas BILL ... OH WOW! Thanks for catching the spelling!. Odd, because in my mind when I saw the shaker my first thought was GUTTATE. I pulled out my Davis Salt shaker book and when I looked on page 133, it says GUATTE. I thought to myself, oh my Gail why have you been pronouncing it Guttate all this time. How did you manage that? I just supposed I had it wrong in my mind and assumed the book was correct and copied what was in the book...and then spent time trying to figure out how to pronounce Guatte. ROTFLOL. Needless to say, I've change the name in the book now.

@reen REEN ... could you be so kind as to just repost the round bowl and the large one. Can't locate them right now. Will try to have a look later.

@itsagas BILL .... Congratulations on your splendid auctions!!!!!

@scott ……Or anyone else who may know. I just purchased these shakers, mostly because my grand daughter likes pink. Can you tell me anything about them, or are they just old generic glass shakers?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/170710945277?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2648
Thanks

***Don

@Scott Forgot to mention the pics you posted are grand!

Good Morning, Shelly! 🙂

@Scott I think the Mary Gregory shakers are most likely Bohemian. Good to see you on DW!

Here is a well written article in addition to those who don't know the history on Mary Gregory and would like to.
http://www.antiquecolouredglass.info/History%20of%20Mary%20Gregory.htm

Have a great day, everyone!
Leah

Good afternoon It is almost 5p.m & I am doing a catch up scroll here.
@glassusa Bob yep the airports here have been in a mess of late. Strikes, strikes & more strikes.
@scott I tried the chat room ages ago on the GLDB, when it was first started and noone was hardly ever there, so I gave up. I jhad actually forgotten about it, till the other day when you mentioned it.
@songbreeze Gail I am glad you are feeling a bit better
Julie

@@scott , Lovely pair of shakers. Those decorators painted such nice things and those who did the reverse painting. WOW, that kind of talent is just beyond me. I have often wished I had talent with a brush. LOL Not that lucky.

Tony...On my way out.

@scott
I Love your House, it looks like a Home to me, we have some lovely Victorian homes here, not as old, but really lovely.

Leah,
I love all your Dugan!
Your Glass makes me Smile~
Fran

@scott Yep old homes are a full time job, there is always some form of renovation happening. I am trying my best to cope with one all by myself. This home will never ever be totally finished. I have long given up on that idea and I have lived here for 23 years. My home was built in the 1920's.
BTW I understand too about strange/unexplainable things happening. Had some weird things go on in this home.Hair pulling , punched in the back, things moving/falling, hearing ppl walking around.
Julie

@Scott Yes, it's best to ignore it if you can.... For an older home, it's going to make some noise!
Leah

@Scott I'm sure it has been a very rewarding process. I'm amazed with how old your home is and it's looks brand new!
Ok, in the spirit of Halloween, is your home haunted since it is from around 1880? lol
Leah

@scott lovely home
Julie

@Fran2 Thank you for mentioning it. Your response will help save me some time with not looking into any further.

@Reen Wish I could be of more help with your pitcher. I can only comment to say it is most likely North American and from the early 1900’s. Sorry, that is not much information to share.

@Scott, So does this mean if you are painting the roof, you're not afraid of heights?! Is there anything you don’t do? lol Hopefully, with winter coming, work & projects will shift, so you can find the time to enjoy something else for a change of pace.

@Fran, Here is two examples of Dugan rose bowls in green and yellow from their Venetian line, Pompeian. The emerald green rose bowl with threads is from Bohemian maker, Kralik which was inspired from Dugan’s Japanese line, Starburst.

http://i52.tinypic.com/ily64w.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/1552mno.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/2zednww.jpg
http://i56.tinypic.com/34xj2i0.jpg

@Scott Thanks for the vote of confidence. When I have time to get started, I will tell myself if Scott can do it, then I can do it! lol Yes, can relate with ongoing home projects, it's never ending. Hopefully, you will find the time to enjoy taking on a glass hunt. We all need a break to have some fun.

Leah

@scott : None of the pieces like your shakers or any of the earlier Northwood Graniteware frit pieces will be iridized. They were all primarily done with opaque white (opal) frit. Dugan was the first U.S. maker to create iridized frit glass, circa 1904-1909.

@scott : Yes, they are done with frit, but of course, not iridescent. Northwood did quite a lot with frit, especially in the late 1800's, with his "Graniteware" lines.

In studying the Dugan Art Glass, I've noticed something that I've not seen mentioned before in any references on it. Not all of the Dugan Frit Art Glass has the iridescent sheen. Some are not iridescent, yet all had to be re-fired. So, I started a close examination of the pieces I have to try and determine if there was anything at all different about the iridized ones......and I found something. When held to strong light, all of the iridescent pieces showed tiny specs of Amber color in the imbedded frit. All of the non-iridized examples did not show any Amber specs in the frit. I'm starting to think that one of the key factors in getting the frit to oxidize & create the iridescent luster was the use of Amber colored frit.

Well, I posted here, walked in my bedroom to pick up something, looked at my bed, fell on it, and now, 4 1/2 hours later I just woke up. Going to get something to eat and crawl back in bed.

@scott SCOTT ... I, too, belong to GLGD, but I rarely go there. It is a slow-loading site for me, not easy to get around the database. I felt the photographs for so many of the items were so poorly done and the quality of glass brought for ID was lacking. Also I just didn't feel there was much expertise for many of the ID's...just a lot of unfounded speculation (with the exception of Fran who knows her Candlewick! 😀 ) I use to try to help ID things, but I got angry when I'd spend time trying to ID something only to find out they had already gotten an ID on an item but hadn't posted it on all their pics, or hadn't moved it out of the "need ID" area. And there was a "need ID" area in the database and one in the Yahoo base and they weren't necessarily coordinated. I only subscribe to the updates now and only occasionally add to the site. As a "newbie", Diane has it set up in such a way that your post has to be "approved" by a moderator before it can be posted. It's a rubber stamp, but I never figured out the why of it. I actually unsubscribed to it at one time, but finally came back as long as I just only see the updates and can click out of it fast. Today was typical. Someone had posted a picture of a vase they wanted an ID on and the vase is laying on it's side because they didn't rotate the picture. Irritates this old woman. I just deleted the email and won't bother standing on my head to try to deal with old fuzzy pics.

@cjvreeland CHUCK ... L.E. Smith had a Fayette Decor line in the early 1960s. and it was marketed as Fayette Glass. According to Tom Felt's LE Smith Glass Company book. This soon was marketed simply as Fayette Glass, with no mention of the issuing company....this was done to allow Smith to sell to discout stores without interfering with its regular customers. Pieces from previous seasons that were no longer in the current catalog could be sold this way at volume prices. This is the explanation why so many known Smith items can also be found with Fayette labels....Fayette was sold for at least 10 years before being phased out in the 1970s.

@scott
I see you joined my other glass group GLGD!
I am a moderator, I did all the Candlewick pages in the Database~
fran

@scott : I don'y happen to have the book you mentioned last night, so I couldn't verify from that. Did some online searching while having morning coffee & found the one I linked. Glad it confirms your findings & thanks for your help.

@scott : The one you linked to is identical to the one sold at the Julia auction that I mentioned. Close, but enough differences between it & mine to leave doubt.

@Fran2 : That one is VERY close to what mine is, but still two differences: Mine is 6" tall & the one you linked is 4 1/2". The one you linked has a dimpled, crimped "pinch" between the ruffled on the top. Mine does not have that little "pinch" & is more broadly ruffled.

@itsagas : I agree on the color. I've seen some of the Italian stuff & it doesn't look like this at all. Quality is not even close. This piece is of superb quality & finish. Surface is smoother than the finest silk.

Will do some more research on it tomorrow. I've been on the road all day & just too tired to do more tonight. The mystery will have to remain so for tonight. Thanks everyone for all the input.

@scott : Okay, now I know who you are talking about. Never met him, but I believe he bought pieces from me back in the 70's-80's through the Antique Trader & the HOACGA monthly bulletin. I've heard Tom Burns speak of him many times too.

I'm outta here shortly. Going to go pick a route I haven't done in about 6 months.

@scott : That name definetly rings a bell, but I can't place it.

@scott I was over at the shop and walked by a case and saw a Firestone ashtray with the rubber tire, the middle was pink. It was $39, don't know if that's a good price or not.

Good Morning .The rain seems to has gone and the sun is shining.For now at least
@scott yes I totally agree it all balances out. Its great when you can get a fabulous bargain cause then you can splash out a little extra on something else that you really want. When DH & I went to auctions and were stocking our shop plus market stall. We tallied the amount the whole lot cost , not what we bid on each individual item.Some items we got for a steal and some we had to bid that bit extra to acquire it And then there were the items we wanted to keep for ourselves.Those items had no limit..well to a degree LOL Yep it all balanced out.
Julie

Good morning, glassies.

@scott SCOTT ... I agree things balance. I've bought a hundred things that I've paid way too much for...and a hundred things I got for a steal. Each is a learning process and things do balance as I learn from it.

@decoqueen JANICE & @jagofc TONY ... sure was glad to be able to bookmark to favorites the Houze sites. It already helped me ID one item I had.

Have to go get ready for Tai Chi class. See you all later.

@Scott: You made me go looking into my collection. I have a Rubber tire ash tray done with a Tractor tire. It has Firestone engraved on the dish. Not certain if Houze made it .
I do remember my family having several auto tire trays with the rubber on them. Most were dry rotted . amazingly, my tire is in excellent condition. every time i see one in a shop, they are expensive.
JimD

@scott Ooops, didn't realize that was yours, thought you'd bought yours from a local shop or something. Sure would've been tempted if I'd seen it in a shop.

I've had at least my share of those moments.

Bill

@Scott,

Repro or not, those slag glass Pennsylvania Rubber tire ashtrays sell well on eBay - at least one did. See this closed auction:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/AKRO-AGATE-SLAG-GLASS-RUBBER-TIRE-COMPANY-ASHTRAY-MATCH-HOLDER-SO-UNUSUAL-/170701492104?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27be9a0f88

Bill

@scott My friend at the antique shop asked me about the bowl shown here first one on the left, second row.

Good morning Glassies all.
Still cool here in DC. Might get out of the 60’s for our high. It is to warm up into the mid 70’s over the next few days. Winter is coming sooner than I would like.

@Fran . Thank you so much for this great info. Companies do little without a reason so the letters had to have a meaning. I printed the list and added it to my books.

@scott & @carma . I enjoyed the info on the Ashtray. Neat to see how research runs it’s course and leads one all over the place. Amazing how many things must be found during the journey.

Finished my scroll and have much to do today so will sign off for now. BBL

Tony

@scott I have to thank you, while looking for your ashtray I identified a mystery bowl! Thank you!

Good morning, glassies. Got a busy day ahead of me.

@scott SCOTT ... my wild goose chase was the possibility of Vidrio or Houze on that ashtray. Vidrio did a lot of slag ashtrays.

@scott : Just found this on the Antique Automobile Association Website. It's from a chat/blog on there & was posted by the past President of the Club. They were talking about the ashtray in question.......

"Don't let this thread die - there are hundreds of these out there. I had to include mention of a fake however - the Pennsylvania Vacuum Cup tire ashtray in colored glass is pure repop. The originals were clear glass with a white frosted tire and red cups on it. Lettering on the tire was red and black and the logo in the bottom of the ashtray was also red. Good examples of the real thing are hard to find but the modern colored glass repros (see photo for a green one) are all over the place, unfortunately sometimes with big asking prices. It's like the fake Ford Guard badges - cleverly done but not genuine!"

I would gather from this that the only ones considered "original" are the ones he describes.

@scott : That Worthpoint info, from an Ebay auction, may be eroneous. It states that Rosso purchased the mould & had Mosser produce it. I just searched the Rosso website. It has a complete online catalog. There are virtually NO ashtrays in any shape or form. If Rosso had the mould & had Mosser make the pieces, there would surely be some on the Rosso site, but there are none. If Summit had the mould before Rosso, I'd almost be more inclined to see what could be turned up regarding any Summit production of the piece.

@scott : I also just dug out Gene Florence's book on Akro Agate (practically an antique itself, published in 1975). There a dozens of ashtrays in there, many with advertising, but nothing like your's. None with a matchbox holder. But, I still think the colors on yours looks like Akro Agate.

@scott : I have Taves & Jennings book "Slag & Marble Glass-The Prominent Years, 1959-1985." They have quite an extensive section on Westmoreland's Slag. There is nothing in there even remotely like your ashtray. Accorcing to them, Westmoreland's first Slag was made in 1972 & produced until the factory closed in 1984.

The color and variagation on your ashtray reminds me more of Akro-Agate than of anything Westmoreland made. Just MHO.

BTW, the above mentioned book is well worth having. Published by Schiffer Books. Covers Slag made by Imperial, Westmoreland, Fenton, L.G.Wright, Summit & others.

@scott SCOTT ... sorry I'm not much help. I only have two Westmoreland books and they don't show that ashtray.

@scott SCOTT ... before you upload on tinypics there is a box that says resize... use the 640 x 480 size offered.

@scott SCOTT ... oh, no no no no no NO NO NO nonon....couldn't be having that. Would have to move to another State.

@carma CARL ... I was eating BEFORE I knew I was eating it. Tasted like beef, but then I was thinking, hmmmmm that meat in that roasting pan had a rib cake that looked more like a big turkey. So I asked the mountain man what we were eating and that's when I discovered that many an old-timer in this area LOVE woodchuck. Wasn't bad, but I have put in any of my menus.

@scott SCOTT ... Thanks! The mystery solved!

@fyrqueen KATIE ... kept thinking someone would answer as to whether it was possible to salvage the silver off the glass. I don't have any idea. You said it was really thick, but I just can't imagine how you'd get it off, and if you did, whether there would actually be enough to fool with.

@glassusa BOB ... love the candleholders!

@suzy SUZY ... I use too many exclamation points! 🙂

@scott : I've had a couple Blue stain Banana Bowls over the years & I've seen one in the Brown stain. Funny thing is that, aside from your Shakers & Banana Bowls, I've never seen any of the other Custard Louis XV pieces in this pattern with these odd stains. No Pitchers, Tumblers, Butters, Creamers, Spooners, Sugars etc.

Mahnin'All: We've had three frosty ones & the growing season is certainly over. It has certainly triggered the foliage too. Leaves changing color much faster now. We picked all the green tomatoes left on the plants & they are now ripening in a large mixing bowl on the kitchen counter.

@scott : Nice Louis XV shakers. Never seen the shakers in that stain before. I'm firmly convinced now that Tom Burns had a green stain Louis XV Banana Bowl in one of his Victorian Glass auctions. I can see the brochure photo in my mind as clear as can be. I recall that the stain was very dark on it, almost a "Forest Green" color, in the same kind of "wash" effect as your shakers.

Next time I see Tom, I'll ask him about it. He has a photographic memory on these things. I usually see him at least once a year when I go down to the NECGA auction in Mass., but I didn't make it to this year's auction. Just as well, as I heard prices realized this year were quite high.

@scott ......I am really worried about the shelf that Northwood Crysanthemum Sprig blue water set is sitting on. You had better send it to me for safe keeping!! 🙂 🙂
Some very beautiful pieces you have acquired. Thanks for letting us all drool and wish.
***Don

@scott : I may be mistaken, but I seem to recall that quite a few years back Tom Burns had a Louis XV Banana Bowl in Custard with a very dark green stain on it, in one of his Victorian Glass auctions. He was promoting it as "only one he'd ever seen". I've had a couple of them with dark blue stain.

Well, off to Rumford. Got a whole bunch of errands to run: bank, hardware store, Wal-Mart & drop off some papers to DW at the High School (that she went off & forgot this AM). Back later.